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Key Points
- Start Before You Feel Ready
Daniel launched toy rockets on campus with zero experience because “anything is better than nothing.” Taking imperfect action is the fastest way to generate momentum and discover what actually works, quickly bridging the gap between your current reality and your ambitions. - Embrace “Fail Early, Fail Often, but Always Fail Forward”
Treat every failure as valuable data. By reframing setbacks as essential feedback rather than defeat, you learn faster than your competition and turn every mistake into a stepping stone toward success. - Apply Knowledge Through Doing, Not Just Studying
As a computer-science student, Daniel got bored with theory and started building real rockets so he could actually use what he was learning. True mastery and confidence emerge only when you test concepts against real-world friction and unexpected challenges. - Build Visible Wins to Grow a Team
Small public launches (even imperfect ones) attracted 100+ members, media, sponsors, and partners in four years. Publicly showcasing early progress creates powerful social proof that naturally draws in talent, resources, and supporters far more effectively than grand promises. - Network Relentlessly at the Right Events
One conference (Spaceport Norway) connected them to Propulse NTNU, led to NORSTEC, and opened doors they never knew existed. A single high-quality conversation at the right gathering can compress years of progress into just a few transformative months. - Take Full Personal Responsibility
If something important is missing (e.g. an aerospace degree or launch capability in Norway), don’t wait for someone else. Start the company or initiative that will create it. The moment you stop waiting for permission or perfect conditions and fully own the outcome is when real change begins. - Become a Deliberate Jack-of-all-Trades
Daniel moved from coding parachute systems to rocket engines, management, and fundraising. Developing broad competence across multiple areas lets you see the entire system clearly and make sharper strategic decisions as a leader or founder. - Use Rapid-Iteration Tools Without Apology
3D printing, electric pump-fed engines, and constant testing let them move faster than traditional approaches. Prioritizing speed of learning and frequent testing almost always beats waiting for perfection in ambitious projects. - Trust the Process While Building Your Own Safety Net
Take big leaps (8 m liquid-fueled rocket, reusable orbital plans) knowing you can recover because you’ve trained yourself to get back up. Real confidence isn’t the absence of fear, it’s the deep knowing that you have the resilience and resourcefulness to keep going no matter what happens.
Transcript

Intro
[Intro video of Space Lab]
When resources were scarce, our ancestors crossed the seas.
And when the world needed energy, we rose to the occasion.
Today, humanity stands at a new crossroads.
A growing world demands new frontiers.
And like our ancestors, we heed the call to explore.
The same spirit that built the oil age
will harness the energy of the universe to create a sustainable future on Earth.
Our ships have changed.
Our spirit remains.
Joachim’s Intro of the Guest

Today’s guest is Daniel Varming.
As a Computer Science student at the University of Stavanger, he started and scaled the UiS Aerospace organization from 1 to 100+ people in 4 years! This student organization is dedicated to rocketry, spacecraft and ambitious space projects. Under his vision, they set bold goals, including launching a satellite into orbit by mid 2026, inspiring the next generation of Norwegian space talent.
Daniel co-founded and has served as part-time COO at NORSTEC – Norwegian Space Technology Collective, which is an initiative advancing national space capabilities across schools and universities in Norway.
In December 2025, he founded Space Lab, a company originating from UiS Aerospace, and has taken on the role as CEO. They will build Norway’s next-generation launch capability, focused on reusable rockets, sustainability, and competitive access to space. Their mission is to establish a national, commercial small-satellite launch-service from Norway, enabling sovereign access to space for Europe and beyond.
He has spoken at major events like Spaceport Norway, where he’s highlighted the importance of Norway’s role in the global space ecosystem, from student rocket launches to fostering connections between academia, business, and innovation. He embodies enthusiasm for rockets, leadership, and the transformative potential of space technology.
…and now dear friends, my conversation with Daniel Varming.
⏱️ Timestamps
00:00 — Intro sequence.
01:18 — Introduction of guest and his early student rocket journey
03:10 — First spark of childhood fascination with flight and rockets
04:44 — Starting a university rocket organization with friends and borrowed motors
06:58 — Early chaotic campus launches and decision to build a proper test site
09:07 — Core philosophy: fail early, fail often, but always fail forward
13:51 — Breakthrough moment recovering a rocket with unexpected help
15:08 — Launching the ambitious liquid-fueled Phoenix 1 rocket
20:28 — Founding the national student space collective after a key conference
27:19 — Transition to commercial company Space Lab and orbital ambitions
37:56 — Developing the next-generation engine named Ragnarok
50:30 — Inspiration from SpaceX reusability and iterative engineering mindset
1:39:41 — Final advice for aspiring students and young leaders in aerospace
💬 Key Quotes
- On embracing failure as progress.
“Fail early, fail often, but always fail forward.“ - Classic humorous anecdote about early chaos
“We hit a car once and we ran really fast the other way.“ - On why Norway needs its own rocket
“Norway proudly brags that we have the full value chain with space… but Norway itself does not have the rocket. It is the only piece of the puzzle that Norway is missing to have sovereign access to space.“ - Viking spirit applied to modern rocketry
“Our ships have changed, but our spirit remains.“ - Powerful cave analogy for humanity’s future in space
“The universe is to our planet what the world outside the cave is to cave dwellers… infinite in space and also infinite in energy and resources.“ - On grit and not quitting
“The only rule is that you don’t quit. You fail and you try again until you have the result you want.“
🔗 Episode Links
- Daniel’s Instagram
- Space Lab website
- Space Lab on LinkedIn
- Space Lab on Instagram
- Space Lab on YouTube
- UiS Aerospace website
- UiS Aerospace on YouTube
- NORSTEC website
- NORSTEC on YouTube
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- 📗 Reentry: SpaceX, Elon Musk, and the Reusable Rockets that Launched a Second Space Age by Eric Berger
- 🎬 Joe Rogan Experience #2422 – Jensen Huang
- 🎬 Everyday Astronaut YouTube channel